Your last few sentences ask who would be THE person to debate on "their side" (i.e. the Modernist). Your inquiry relates closely to my previous two posts...

You see, if I were to answer your question I would say "It doesn't matter." This philosophy that the ARC shares, that being "we must debunk, expose, etc" and ultimately rid the world of such things is detrimental.

Robert's Response:
I do not agree with you on that point. Silence is tantamount to giving these purveyors of the modernist doctrine the green light to keep spreading their dogma of "everything is art" and "skill; who needs it? Liberate yourself of such things, do what you want and be free to create what you want". That kind of chaos mandate masquerading as enlightened modern thinking should never be allowed to stand unchallenged, and I am glad the ARC is doing just that.

"nnavarrojr" wrote:
I think if far more effort were spent on CREATING something that UNDERMINES the modernist establishment than on DESTROYING it, the world would be better off. The only power they have is that which YOU afford them.

Robert's Response:
I certainly did not give them the power to dominate our Universities, Museums, Media, and Government institutions, which they do and which they will continue to do unless we break our silence. You are right; creating good works is an important deed (one that we do not need a negative motivation to act upon). Still we need to loosen the grip that this insidious modernist philosophy has on our collective throats, ignoring it does not seem to have stopped it from steam rolling over us and our good works. I believe breaking our silence and calling these people on their pretzel twisting logic is just as important as painting that masterpiece.

"nnavarrojr" wrote:
I would implore you to, instead of looking for "The Authority of the Modernist" to debate, that you spend that time and energy on painting, drawing, taking an art workshop, raising funds for a scholarship or giving a talk about an artist few of us have heard of.

Robert's Response:
Of course you have written these words to fit Brian Yoder's response to that past post but I am an artist and I do indeed spend 99% of my time drawing, painting and teaching art not beating the bushes for lurking "Modernists". Never the less when one rears its ugly head I won't hesitate to smite it with my mahl-stick, (and I take great pleasure in Brian Yoder's logical and masterfully executed hammer blows upon their arguments) I carry no angst about standing up for Western Art and the traditional skills of its artists, no practitioner or lover of it should, nonsense should be challenged and exposed for what it is.

Robert