Cinnabar was the predecessor to Vermillion, which was used up until the 15th century.

Philip, There is no actual terminal date for cinnabar, because it has been found in eastern European panel and wall paintings well past the date you give above. Vermilion was used into the 20th century, but was gradually replaced by cadmium red in artists' paints. It is making a small comeback in artists' paints, now that several small artists' materials manufacturers have taken it up again.

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My Terre Verte is authentic, it's pure pigment form and I always check to see if it is just a mixture of pigments or genuine.

Philip, I am glad that someone is checking the labels and buying the authentic pigment. It worries me that if these pigments fall completely in disuse we will lose their sources forever.

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It is true that there is little flake white on the market today, but it still exists. It is in fact quite poisonous, however it is still obtainable in pigment form and I can still get it in tube form if I wish, because the people I buy my art supplies from have some very old back stock dating 50-75 years.

Philip, Flake white is not produced commercially (if you subscribe to the definition in my previous posting), although lead white or basic lead carbonate pigment is still being produced by a few manufacturers worldwide. I would like to obtain some of this old stock for research purposes. Can you tell where you buy this old stock? Posted by Philip:

Cinnabar was the predecessor to Vermillion, which was used up until the 15th century.

Philip, There is no actual terminal date for cinnabar, because it has been found in eastern European panel and wall paintings well past the date you give above. Vermilion was used into the 20th century, but was gradually replaced by cadmium red in artists' paints. It is making a small comeback in artists' paints, now that several small artists' materials manufacturers have taken it up again.

Posted by Philip:

My Terre Verte is authentic, it's pure pigment form and I always check to see if it is just a mixture of pigments or genuine.

Philip, I am glad that someone is checking the labels and buying the authentic pigment. It worries me that if these pigments fall completely in disuse we will lose their sources forever.

Posted by Philip:

It is true that there is little flake white on the market today, but it still exists. It is in fact quite poisonous, however it is still obtainable in pigment form and I can still get it in tube form if I wish, because the people I buy my art supplies from have some very old back stock dating 50-75 years.

Philip, Flake white is not produced commercially (if you subscribe to the definition in my previous posting), although lead white or basic lead carbonate pigment is still being produced by a few manufacturers worldwide. I would like to obtain some of this old stock for research purposes. Can you tell where you buy this old stock?

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